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Lorenzo

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Magic Rds + BW Broadcast
« on: October 21, 2019, 09:14:45 pm »
Hello,
I dont find how to configure Magic RDS for Dynamic RT with my BW Broadcast Sender.

My BW Broadcast is on TCP IP  in my network and i can communique standalone with him without any problems.
If i take my ip on the Magic RDS Configuration > ok and ready but if i click read or send "communication error".

My BW Broadcast TX100 have an API in his software.
The normal way is loggin before send information with this kind of URL : http://192.168.1.100/api/auth?password=password
I can log in Firefox or Chrome without any problem and send http requests.

How to communicate with Magic RDS ?
I put my ip in TCP IP + port > Connected but not communicate.
Thanks.

Jan

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Re: Magic Rds + BW Broadcast
« Reply #1 on: October 21, 2019, 09:23:05 pm »
Your device is currently not supported by this freeware tool. The support is however planned in upcoming version 4.

Lorenzo

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Re: Magic Rds + BW Broadcast
« Reply #2 on: October 22, 2019, 11:26:18 am »
Your device is currently not supported by this freeware tool. The support is however planned in upcoming version 4.

Ok ! Thank you for your reply :)
I think is supported by orlder versions in 3.5 - 3.7.

Version 4.0 is coming soon ?

Thanks

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Re: Magic Rds + BW Broadcast
« Reply #3 on: October 22, 2019, 06:55:08 pm »
It is not only an update, the application is being completely rewritten. This project is delayed by about 2 years so we now focused on that all our efforts. We want to release a beta by end of this year.

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Re: Magic Rds + BW Broadcast
« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2019, 01:47:37 pm »
It is not only an update, the application is being completely rewritten. This project is delayed by about 2 years so we now focused on that all our efforts. We want to release a beta by end of this year.

Ok cool !  I'm in contact with BW Broadcast and maybe he have a solution.
I post solution if i have :)
Manually, i can send command via http like this "http://mylocalip/api/SetParameter?id=idrds.dsn[1].psn[0].rt&value=Test RT Rds

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Re: Magic Rds + BW Broadcast
« Reply #5 on: October 23, 2019, 02:15:45 pm »
We will definitely use direct TCP connection rather than HTTP protocol.

Lorenzo

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Re: Magic Rds + BW Broadcast
« Reply #6 on: October 23, 2019, 05:33:48 pm »
We will definitely use direct TCP connection rather than HTTP protocol.

For you information it working now ! BW Broadcast support help me.

Configuration working is with 3.6 Version or earlier (not with 3.7 or 3.8):
- Tcp/ip > direct ip of fm sender
- Uncheck bidirectionnal + Autodetect port speed

With this config, i can send all rds information but not receive.

Thank you

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Re: Magic Rds + BW Broadcast
« Reply #7 on: October 23, 2019, 05:46:21 pm »
It works partially, especially for the 'Now playing' text output, the version 4 will bring full support as it will implement more communication protocols, incl. UECP and MicroRDS. For some encoders (not for BW) the UECP implementation will be paid only.

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Re: Magic Rds + BW Broadcast
« Reply #8 on: January 30, 2020, 12:01:49 am »
Setup is SPL Pro on a WIN XP PC to Magic RDS to Trendnet TU-59 USB to Serial adapter to a serial cable to BWBroadcast TX300 V3 (latest update).  MagicRDS reads the playing now file perfectly and updates with song changes on the MagicRDS screen but MagicRDS can't do bi-directional pairing to the TW300v3 with the transmitter serial port enabled by using either the Magic wizard as a first step or by doing various other MagicRDS connection tests. 

Now that I think about it I suspect that the problem is that the Trendnet adapter doesn't have the FTDI chipset.

What do you think?

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Re: Magic Rds + BW Broadcast
« Reply #9 on: January 30, 2020, 08:21:30 am »
Magic RDS 3 is not fully compatible with new BW product line. See my reply #7 above.

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Re: Magic Rds + BW Broadcast
« Reply #10 on: January 31, 2020, 11:35:12 pm »
Epic Success today.  XP PC with Station Playlist (SPL) feeding a Tera Grand Premium USB 2.0 to RS232 Serial DB9 6' Adapter, with the FTDI chipset, connected to a StarTech straight through serial cable feeding the RS232 TX300V3 input.  Fresh install of MagicRDS V3.8e on PC.  Pointed MagicRDS to the playing now file in SPL  Tested with the MagicRDS help wizard with bidirectional data flow.  Radiotext song and artist began appearing and changing on listeners car radio displays.  Do NOT use a null modem cable with the TX300V3.

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Re: Magic Rds + BW Broadcast
« Reply #11 on: August 28, 2020, 03:31:25 pm »
I have a problem with Magic RDS with my BW broadcast TX-300 V3 transmitter. I make a TCP connection on port 1000 with the transmitter. The transmitter receives the data and it is correctly given on the radio display. I am using external source with radiotext. The problem is that the data does not refresh on my display. The transmitter successfully receives the correct data from magic RDS every 9 seconds.  I have to reselect the radio station on the radio before it shows the correct information and refresh the data.  I have the problem with Magic RDS 3 and Magic RDS 4. I have updated the transmitter to the latest firmware 16/06/20. I hope you can help me. I have no idea

many thanks in advance

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Re: Magic Rds + BW Broadcast
« Reply #12 on: August 28, 2020, 03:43:22 pm »
Please paste here a sample data from the Overview - Communication Monitor.

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Re: Magic Rds + BW Broadcast
« Reply #13 on: August 28, 2020, 03:55:18 pm »
Please paste here a sample data from the Overview - Communication Monitor.


[2020-08-28 15:51:20.935]
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[2020-08-28 15:51:34.058]
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[2020-08-28 15:51:47.186]
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[2020-08-28 15:52:00.310]
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[2020-08-28 15:52:13.436]
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[2020-08-28 15:52:26.782]
TX:
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[2020-08-28 15:52:39.903]
TX:
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[2020-08-28 15:52:53.026]
TX:
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[2020-08-28 15:53:06.155]
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[2020-08-28 15:53:19.280]
TX:
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[2020-08-28 15:53:32.405]
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Re: Magic Rds + BW Broadcast
« Reply #14 on: August 28, 2020, 04:21:02 pm »
Thank you. It seems you've selected Generic UECP as the encoder model. Correct setting for your device is the Readbest.

By the way, your device contains old encoder firmware version. New version 1.5 has been already offered to BW but they haven't updated it yet in their product line.

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  What's new in version 1.5
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  New features:

- real-time output monitoring by RDS Spy via any communication port
- UECP MEC 13, 14 now automatically inserts filler if required
- UECP MEC 24 @ buffer config 0x00 is now ignored if the group is not included in the group sequence

  Bugfixes:

- UECP MEC 0A now toggles RT type bit according to the specification
- UECP MEC 0A now clears entire RT prior to filling by new text
- UECP MEC 17 now works also with DSN parameter set to 0
- UECP MEC 18 now returns sequence counter as well
- UECP MEC 34 fixed
- unwanted sequence counter reset fixed
- EON variant code 13 now includes TA